Jake "The Snake" Roberts, Wrestling Legend
& Trainer: 3rd June
"The Snake" Roberts is a true living legend
of professional wrestling. Jake has done it all in
and out of the ring.
is currently residing in the UK where he is training
young wrestlers, and is in the process of making a
documentary of pro wrestling.
is also writing a book: Beneath
The Bullshit: The Life and Times of Jake "The
Snake" Roberts. Jake speaks with Greg
Tingle via telephone in Sydney. (The interview will
be posted in audio at a later date).
are some of the highlights of the interview:
Jake. What's the key attribute that dictates if someone
can make it in the world of pro wrestling?
Knowledge is the key. They know 19,000 fuckin' moves
but they don't do any of them right. You don't get
up from a sledgehammer!
and why did you get into the business?
long have we got.....I haven't got much time...
give me the short version
wanted to shove the business up my fathers arse.
did you think about that documentary (Beyond The Mat)
was bullshit. Lies....I thought Piper
and Foley were my friends.
They made millions off that. Me, I didn't make a dime.
18 year old guy does not buy a fuckin' t-shirt of
a doll. Young kids is what buys. It's a joke.
have called at the right time!
will be a series of tapes; Beyond the Bullshit - The
Life and Death Story of Jake "The Snake"
stays the same for ever.
is different every day man.
Tingle is currently in the process of typing up the
interview and the audio
interview will be available as soon as possible.
2 of audio interview
will be aiming to interview Jake Roberts again, to
continue on with this amazing interview.
Man Australia wishes Jake well in all of his endeavors.
"The Snake" Roberts official website www.jakethesnakeroberts.tv
Tribute: Jake "The Snake" Roberts (by Greg
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interviews (audio) with Jake "The Snake"
to New Era of Wrestling)
Transcript #3 : Jake "The Snake" Roberts,
interviewed by Chris Yandek, New
Era of Wrestling
you read my columns on a usual basis then you would
have read two great interviews with Jake Roberts.
In round 3, Jake discusses his Wrestling School, the
passing of the British Bulldog, and one of the times
when a wrestling fan got too excited or Jake was just
doing his job too well, and actually tried to kill
him, and so much more.
First off. how are you since we last talked?
just wonderful. It feels good to punish others, especially
since they are paying for it, and I can feel good,
because I'm doing it to teach and without a television
was your Wrestling Tour in Scotland?
was wonderful, beautiful and the scenery so different.
I enjoyed it very much. But Scotland is really no
different, in fact no where you look in this Universe
there's nothing quite like a Promoter. You can talk
about all the horrible things wrestlers do, but Promoters
are still the biggest trip of all. Scotland probably
has some of the greatest fans on this planet, so hungry
for an opportunity to see "Stars" that they
nearly all accept what is called a 'Tribute Show.'
'Tribute' means imitating likenesses moves, attire,
interview, catchphrases and anything else that can
be copied about the character and sold to public.
At first, I was upset with the athletes, but they
are simply doing a job for the Promoter, who has required
it. In Aberdeen I was the only Star there in person.
One thing I must say, is seeing 'Stone Cold' at 160
lbs was quite odd. I would like to talk more about
this, but in the situation I find myself in, I must
bite my tongue in half. Not to save job, but to harm
the possibility of work permit renewal. Besides talking
about it does nothing, does it? Maybe that's why I
opened a School to teach others to create not imitate,
to lead not follow.
is the Wrestling School going?
going good. Jake Roberts is really good at wrestling.
Jake Roberts is really good at doing promo's. Jake
Roberts has a mind for doing promo's, but Jake Roberts
is not a good arranger of a building, or Business
suit stuff. I really don't do well at that part, but
fortunately I ran into a couple of Guys that are from
the Service and they have been a great support to
me, and they also support me in other things too man.
They help me to do what I want to do, and not want
to do. It is really good because we've built a great
ring, and it was a 'hands-on' thing for me, where
I am getting greasy and nasty. Also, just to make
it extra tough, we built the ring upstairs and will
have to carry it downstairs, just for fun. It is a
20 foot ring made out of metal with a five inch post.
The Ring is very beautiful, and you would be jealous
if you felt how good this ring feels. This ring is
the Buckingham Palace of wrestling rings. The School
itself, I have a couple of hundred kids who want it
so bad. There are no qualifications, because it is
not my right to choose your dream Chris. If you come
in a wheelchair, that's cool, and I will teach you
everything that I know, because it is my damn job.
It is my duty and honor to pass on, what I received
in technique, knowledge and psychology from all the
Great Ones - Graham, Malenko, Sweetan's and others.
I have one kid with Spina Bifida, one with Cerebal
Palsy, and I dig those kids as much as I dig anyone
else. The one with Cerebal Palsey, I will say right
now, has more growing talent than some of the talent
the WWE has. Just have fun and that is what it's about
is your opinion of the name change from WWF to WWE,
and how will it affect the Company?
somebody will probably misspell it, and other than
that it doesn't matter. If it smells like shit, tastes
like shit, looks like shit, it must be shit. I am
not saying that the WWF is shit, there ya go...WWE
I'm already lost.
you did 'The Snake Pit' talk show for the WWF, How
do you think you did with the broadcast announcing?
never liked broadcasting. The reasons why, are because
it takes team work, and Jake Roberts was never a tag
team thing. Tag Team wrestling takes special men to
do that, and broadcasting takes special men too. When
you work with somebody, you're gonna have to revolve
around them and work in conjunction with them, and
it takes a well-oiled machine to do that. That is
why there are not that many great tag teams - period.
It is a special marriage if you like, when you have
Bobby Heenan and the late Gorilla Monsoon together.
I am not a broadcast man and my voice just does not
do it. I am too opinionated, too callous of what I
see and what I believe, and I speak my mind. It can
get you in trouble, and it's not good sometimes, and
sometimes I need to back off because I know what I
know and it took years to achieve it. I think what
bothers me the most, is what they are doing out there
now and making mistakes. Everybody makes mistakes,
and I know I do ever day. When you don't respect,
and don't feel like you should apologize for your
mistakes when you're wrong, I really have no right
to judge anyone.
Bless The British Bulldog, we had some rough times,
and you know what I am saying. There were some bad
jokes played along the way, and I don't dig that.
Davey Boy, wherever you are brother, I do forgive
you and hope that you forgive me. I hope your children
both benefit and learn from our mistakes because it
is not my right to judge anyone. If God can forgive
me, then who am I not to forgive anyone else? That's
what I wanted to say and really needed to. I had some
bitter feelings, and he was one of the few. I appreciate
the opportunity to do that, but again broadcasting
is special men doing special art. I am not a broadcaster,
but Raven is good."
have said Raven does not enjoy doing broadcasting.
hates it. I told Raven a few years ago, leave there
and go and wrestle. If you're not happy with it then
don't do it. For Christ's sake if you're doing it
for a bang for a buck, you're a 'ho.' He left Johnny
Polo behind and went to WCW and enjoyed himself. What
is going to save wrestling today, is not Vince McMahon,
Ted Turner or Jake Roberts. When it drops to dead
bottom and nobody wants it on TV because it has gone
too far, the only guys doing it will be the ones who
enjoy it, and they are not interested in the $14 to
$20 they are going to make that night. Then you're
gonna have men who love it, enjoy it and perfect it
again. That is sad, but true. It's like penicillin.
They guy who made it, did not just wake up and say
let's do something with it. There is a need for it
and he hungered for that answer and passion. It is
not because there are gonna be millions made off of
it in the future, but that was not the reason he did
it. He did it because he had a need and hunger to
do it. That is what made him beautiful."
in your WCW days a fan in the crowd had a gun and
took two shots at you, and some fan tackled him down.
Was this stuff semi common back when you were a drawing
it was in Dallas, Texas. It wasn't common for sure,
and the funniest thing about it and there is actually
something funny about it. The first funny thing was
Sting was saying ' What the hell are you doing outside
the ring Jake, and I am under the damn ring. The second
funny thing was when the Police came to the back,
they were asking 'Do you want to press charges?' I
looked at them and said 'No, reload that son of a
bitch and put him a bit closer.' In years gone by
and today if you know your art. Undertaker is gone
catch some of that, and I am so proud of him. A lot
of people say why did you change and why did you dump
the Undertaker thing man. He got bored with it. He
is turning the heat up, and I am so proud of him man.
He did take that extra step, and is enjoying himself.
I am really happy for him, because it would have been
too easy, and because the Kevin Nash's of this world
would have rode that roller coaster till it died."
do you think the Montreal Screw Job impacted or changed
don't think it changed anything, but I think it was
a necessity, unfortunately. When you have a business,
own this business these men should honor and do their
job. I never questioned if Vince McMahon came to me,
and said Jake we want Jerry Lawler to call you a stinking
drunk, and an alcoholic. I didn't let my personal
feelings get involved, and I went out and made money
with it. Vince McMahon said hey Jake, we're gonna
have Bad News Brown come out with a sewer rat, that
is actually gonna be a possum painted black. We'll
put you down South and everyone will think you are
stupid, because they know what it is, but we want
you to go out there and make money with it...and I
did. When the Inmates try to run the asylum, it's
not good, and I was around for some of this when I
was doing the bookings, and there had to be a three
hour conversation while you smooth and kiss somebody's
ass to do the damn job. Shawn Michael's should have
his ass kicked for faking a knee injury, and the retirement
thing because he didn't want to drop the belt to Bret.
They both should have their asses kicked, as I am
ashamed of both of them. I used to live with Bret,
and I thought I taught Shawn a little better. Man,
somebody else needs his haircut or something up his
ass. Yeah Shawn, I said it. There is no reason for
that - go do your job man. If you're a pro, you will
do what you are told, and there are guys out there
playing games and not doing their job. Professional
in the dictionary, means going out and doing more
than expected, when you are at your physical and mental
worst. Not failing to do your job. Real pro's go beyond
what is expected and needed and often surpassing expectations
set by all. I have always given it everything I could
wrestlers Lou Thesz and Wahoo McDaniel have both passed
on. What are your memories of both of them, and how
did they influence you?
influenced me the first time he hit me with one of
his chops. He was a man and a hard working one. He
gave it 100 per cent man, all his life. Lou Thesz,
I am not gonna even say a word. That son of a bitch
could come out of the ground and kick my ass. He was,
where do you there man - A true gentleman."
early in your career you had a feud with the late
Junk Yard Dog between 1978 and 1979. Tell me how he
influenced the business during the time as a heel.
and I met in the parking lot of Nick Gulas's office.
Folks yes, I am saying it. We did both smoke joints
that day and both got fired. We worked for this guy
who promised us the world and we are making $10 to
$14 a night. The trip alone cost us $40 to $50. Junk
Yard Dog wanted to learn. I ran into him in Calgary,
and Junk Yard Dog was not a great technician, but
he had great charisma. Charisma is something you are
born with and you can't buy it, pass it on or imitate
it. When I left Calgary to go to Louisiana I told
B.A. (fat,sorry,thieving,lying, racist) Watts, that
this Dude has something going and the South being
mostly black in the Louisiana/Mississippi Area. The
people we needed as Fans. He worked very stiff, and
I have scars on my head that should not be there,
but they are there. He was everything and he was was
very simple. The people loved him and I still do."
did you learn and what are your greatest memories
from World Class Championship Wrestling?
leave yourself open anytime Kevin and Kerry came after
you. I was raised 60 miles from there man, and I know
more than l want to talk about. It was unfortunate
because they were good kids, and they were not mean
or ugly. They were sweet. I hope God is smiling at
them. Kerry is probably doing curls or shoulder presses.
It was just a bad situation, with expectations set
by someone else which is not right.
some exciting stuff and the Promoters over here, watch
out because I am going to give it all to Europe and
WWE Talent - Do not mistake your talent with your
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